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New Contributor Jipster
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Optus Cable switch to NBN Cable.

I have the NBN technician returning this Wednesday to Enable my NBN Cable cable service on an Optus contract.

I currently have Optus Cable services which is terminated to the side of my house. When I had the house built I ensure I had both Optus and Telstra Cables terminated to the side of my house just incase I decided I wanted to switch. The problem is the NBN technician when they arrived last time they refuse to terminate the Type 1 cable from the legacy Optus Cable service to the New NBN cable service which is just using the old Telstra Cable saying they would connect it up to a different point in the House. however the reason I terminate the cable for the Wireless modem was to ensure I could service the entire house with Cable. The NBN technician has said they could not touch the Optus termination box on the side of the house. very strange considering they are means to be enabling an Iptuse NBN cable service.

Your thoughts.

 

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Occasional Contributor Zapache
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Re: Optus Cable switch to NBN Cable.

You will find that the NBN Technician is NOT permitted, by regulation and Optus ownership, to connect to existing Optus Cable cabling or to interfere with Optus equipment in your premises.

However, if you have legitimate internal hfc cabling in your premises, and it is not connected to the Optus equipment in any way, the NBN Cable can be cross-connected to the private internal cabling via a coax lead to allow the NBN HFC Modem to be relocated.

Also note that NBN Co is only responsible for providing a connection to a single point, and that the Retailer and the owner are responsible for everthing past that, including modems and extra cabling. Any extra cabling must be performed by a Registered/Licenced Installer.

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Esteemed Contributor
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Re: Optus Cable switch to NBN Cable.

@Zapache is correct.

You could just cut the Optus cable just outside the Optus box (taking suitable precautions). Not the bit going back to the street. The NBN technician can't touch the Optus box but a lose bit of cabling that goes into your house is fine. Note you will obviously lose any current Optus signal and have to wait until the NBN is activated if you did this.

But you could also just ask the tech to run a new cable along side the Optus cable to the same point (They can put in a new point or just swap out the Optus cable point at that place). Might help if you had a draw string in place to pull the new cable through? 

Its unclear if you have multiple outlets in yout home for the cable?

Peter Gillespie

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Occasional Contributor Zapache
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Re: Optus Cable switch to NBN Cable.

@petergdownload  As a Comms Tech and Trained Cabler, I can assure you it is illegal for an unregistered person to interfere with Telstra, Optus or NBN equipment or cabling.

So suggesting 'cut the cable' is definitely not on, and nor will an NBN Tech connect to such a cable!

BTW I don't post opinion where facts are required, to do so only confuses the issues for the less informed and is unhelpful.

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Esteemed Contributor
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Re: Optus Cable switch to NBN Cable.

@Zapache ,

That's what I like about forums. You have your views and approaches and others have their's. IMO (pun intended) forums are definitely places for opinions and suggestions. The OP and others free to distill what wisdom they can from the responces they get. In this case I would definitely rate yours more authorative and if I'd posted nothing then we (the OP, me or the crowd) apparently would never have had the opportunity to learn such valuable intel. 

I agree I overstepped here and am happy to be called on it. I must admit I find the cabling and electical industries a tad overprotective sometimes.

Peter Gillespie

Occasional Contributor Zapache
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Re: Optus Cable switch to NBN Cable.

@petergdownload IMHO I like the tone of your reply, and your comments on forums I mostly concur with.

Slightly off topic. As for the cabling and electrical industry thing, I was initially trained at TAFE and the PMG/Telecom Training Schools under a six yearTelecom Traineeship. I exited prior to Telecom being privatised into Telecom.

Once it was privatised, The Telecommunications Act came into being to regulate the communications industry, and cabling and registration. So between the TAFEs and the Industry Regulators - the Cabling Certification and Registration appeared.

Prior to this Electricians did not, and could not, perform communications cabling.

You have three levels of Qualification and Regulation in place - 1.Professional (Engineers/Scientists) - 2.Para-professional (Technical Officers/Technicians) - 3.Trade (Tradesman).

Group 1 have Professional Bodies to Certify/Regulate them (Engineers Institute), Group 3 has State Regulators to Register/Regulate them (e.g. Electrical Authorities), but Group 2 rely soley on personally obtained Tafe Training, Employer Certification, and Specialised Courses with Registration such as the Registered Cabler.

I am trained to work in Electronics and Communications, including Radio Equipment and Scientific Instrumentation with High Voltages, but because of State Electrical Regulations I can't touch a GPO (Powerpoint) or Lightswitch with doing a full 4yr Electrical Apprenticeship.

For Electricians - Communications Cabling is now included as part of their general apprenticeship training options.

My 30ys plus Training and experience came to naught when The Telecommunications Act hit, as I was no longer employed in Telecom, but working in Electronics R&D, Nuclear Instrumentation and IT.

So I've had to redo some of my previous training at TAFE, at my own expense, to be able to register as a Registered Cabler. I think it is only reasonable to be able to earn a living to recoup those expenses.

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Re: Optus Cable switch to NBN Cable.

Hi @Zapache ,

Fully agree expertise, effort and experience should be rewarded (it usually is, but that Telecommunications Act must have been more than annoying).  I guess my beef is with the overreach in the regulations. Its patently silly that one HFC cabler (Optus) can't even touch another HFC cable sitting by its side. That rewiring a power outlet or light switch is meant to cost people $150+ to get an expert in. That NBNCo will charge around $800 to come out and disconnect your NBN lead in (because its legally protected etc. and so they can charge what they want) etc.

I'm happy to pay for an expert when its  technically called for not when its legally called for.

Peter Gillespie

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