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Occasional Contributor Luke_usa
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Re: Wifi / Mobile services - simultaneous drop outs. Interference / jammer?

Hi Peter

With due respect, im not asking questions in order to disagree with people - but I am  restating the problem which negates the suggestions provided.

From what I understand - home routers can not interfere will mobile phone signals. They operate on completely different bands for that very reason.

My mobile SIGNAL drops out on both Vodafone and Telstra - I can not connect a call or use data
My WIFI signal drops out - I can not connect any device.

This happens simultaneously.

So with that in mind pointing to my router, or a neighbours router, isnt logical as it if it were one of those things, my mobile would still function.

I welcome suggestions, but trying to point to something it simply cant be, isnt benefiting anyone.

The purpose of my post was to see if there is a way to identify the source of interference that effects wifi AND mobile simultaneously.


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Re: Wifi / Mobile services - simultaneous drop outs. Interference / jammer?

You've no doubt read Sherlock Holmes. Deciding that something simply can't be is likely to bite you.
So both your wifi and mobile drop out at the same time? As another poster mentioned this is pretty unlikely from a technological point of view. You have yet to confirm if your wired connection drops out too (if it does/doesn't then that is a clue). I'm not asking if your neighbours router is working but just that are they experiencing the same thing you are? Again If they are its a clue, if they aren't then that also suggests a way forward.
Peter Gillespie

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Occasional Contributor Luke_usa
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Re: Wifi / Mobile services - simultaneous drop outs. Interference / jammer?

Peter

Fictional characters and litereary references aside - logic is logic.

A router can not effect my mobile signal. They are specifically designed so they dont.

As unlikely as you believe it to be, it is happening - and despite the fact that there are cheap and easily obtained devices that do exactly what I am experiencing, your refusal to accept that premise is just odd.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: Wifi / Mobile services - simultaneous drop outs. Interference / jammer?

In order to clarify the jammer possibility and to solve this mystery, perhaps another approach back to the ACMA is in order. Having read their information on the subject https://www.acma.gov.au/theACMA/faqs-mobile-phone-and-gps-jamming-devices-acma

1. You are experiencing conditions depicted in Clause 6. If in use, these devices seem to operate at a targeted close range - the example used by ACMA is 5 to 10 metres but may be at a larger range. Also Clause 11 seems to indicate that once the ACMA have acknowledged your issue, they will be able to locate the source of the jamming if it exists. 

2. Telstra and Vodafone are on different frequencies to your Wi-Fi but I have seen photos of jammers with multiple antennae - assume for each frequency. When communicating with ACMA, suggest to communicate only on the Mobile problem. Maybe they referred you back to the RSP is becasue they thought your problem was a Wi-Fi issue. 

3G - Telstra 2100/850 Mhz and Vodafone 2100/900 Mhz - both carriers phasing out 2100 this year.

4G - Telstra 2100/1800/2600/900/700 Mhz and Vodafone - 2100/1800/850 Mhz

Wi-Fi operates ar 2400-2483.5 (2.4Ghz) and 5150-5850 Mhz (5 Ghz)

3. I think the suggestion regarding asking your neighbours is worthy of pursuit to see if they also have same experiences and  let them know that the ACMA is investigating the matter. If the problem goes away after that, it may provide a clue.

4. I can understand why in certain circumstances jammers would helpful e.g. in school classrooms but my limited understanding is that they are illegal with hefty fines applicable to owners who use them.

I hope the problem goes away for you and let us know how you go.  

 

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Re: Wifi / Mobile services - simultaneous drop outs. Interference / jammer?

IME most people aren't as logical as they believe (Neigther is electronic equipment for that matter). Have you considered that your router is perhaps malfunctioning with its broadcast frequencies?

I'm happy to entertain all possibilities but you seem adamant that the issue can only be one thing.  FWIW I don't think there is an easy way to locate an RF Jammer - if installed inside your house yes but otherwise you seem to need a lot of specialised equipment.

@Mkrtich is our resident signals specialist so you are in good hands. Smiley Happy

Peter Gillespie

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