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External Antenna for AC800S

emmsee

G'day Crowd,

I'm about to take on a 200GB/$ 60 pm plan which includes a Netgear AC800S.

With a test SIM, I get 3 to 4 bars but would like to add an external antenna to boost the signal to the Modem.

I've got access to Bands 1,3 and 28 (4G) plus 8 (3G)

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

regards

Mike

Re: External Antenna for AC800S

SillyGogo

hi @emmsee I got this TS9 connection 4G antenna https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/35dBi-Broadband-Antenna-Booster-Signal-Amplifier-TS9-for-4G-FDD-LTE-Mobi...Smiley TongueSmiley Tongue

 

with my AC810S, increase the signal from 2 bars to 4 bars. Speed was from 2Mbps to 6Mbps, that was the cap speed of my 4G access oversea. However, I have to place the antenna next to the window to get the full benifit. Also, using the Aircard Smart Cradle improved signal from 2 to 3 bars. Using the Aircard Smart Cradle and 1X(GPRS GSM 4G LTE 35dBi 791-2690MHz Antenna Booster Signal SMA Male Plug 2 O1W0 got me full 4 bars 6Mbps and a very stable connection.


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Re: External Antenna for AC800S

emmsee

G'day SillyGogo,

Did you have the antenna installed outside or inside and is it suitable to erect outside?

cheers

Mike

Re: External Antenna for AC800S

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SillyGogo

mine was a simple instalation. inside the house against the window. The suction mount was poor, we ended up with cable ties to have it next to the window.  Don't think it will last long with the elements and the cable run is short. The antenna gave it a better position and better gain. I've since saw some outdoor 4G antennas that can be mounted on a pole. My only concern with that set up the cable is very long. Not sure if the unit itself can power the antenna for a long distance. What kind of set up are you trying to achieve? Is it for a temporately location or a permanant 4g/Wifi setup for the home? 

 

At the place of installation, oversea, the indoor 4G signal are pretty good, however not stable and can varies depends on the time of the day. Having a short run 2-3 meters of cable to the higher gain antenna helps to give us a more stable connection and results in better speed. 

 

Maybe a product like this https://www.signalboostersaustralia.com/product/4g-signal-booster-all-au-networks-300-sqm/?gclid=EAI...

 

the specs looks good, I've never used one before, might get one to test out at work as my mobile signal is almost non existant. 

 

here is another product, don't know the price 

https://www.optus.com.au/enterprise/mobility/plans-and-devices/cel-fi-pro


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Re: External Antenna for AC800S

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SillyGogo

@emmsee sorry, somehow my long reply from last night disappeared. 

 

Anyhow, mine was an indoor short connection, against the windows. There are few outdoors antennas and booster avaliable, however you would need a power booster to keep the signal good for a long cable run. Also, you might need some sort of lightning arrester and surge protection. There are few kits out there for around $700 https://www.mobilerepeateraustralia.com/products/mobile-repeater-4g-booster?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI94Otub...

 

https://www.optus.com.au/enterprise/mobility/plans-and-devices/cel-fi-pro

 

 

 

What is your set up and what are you trying to achieve? Is there other options like cable internet or nbn etc?


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Re: External Antenna for AC800S

emmsee

G'day SillyGogo,

I have a 2 port (t9) plate in the living room wall where AC800S will reside and it has a 6-metre cable run to the outside antenna mount. I have twin cables laid on to the antenna mount point. Not sure of whether a power booster would be required - from what I've described, is it likely.

If so any recommendations as to what a power booster might be?

 

The nearest Optus 4G tower is 2.2km (line of sight) away with Bands 28, 3 & 1. I usually receive 3 bars on an Optus sim but at times 4.

Would like the steadiness of full signal as my goal.

No FTTN is this town. No Cable. NBN have visited and determined that, using the present Fixed Wireless antenna about 4.5km distant, we do not have a signal (a hill in the road).

I'm not interested in Satellite - too little day time GB available for too much money.

I also cannot afford either of the suggested fixes.

In your first reply, you said that you got good results from this unit - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/35dBi-Broadband-Antenna-Booster-Signal-Amplifier-TS9-for-4G-FDD-LTE-Mobi...Smiley TongueSmiley Tongue

Given what bands I have on my Optus 4G tower that particular antenna would not be suitable, but www.4gltemall.com suggest that a directional antenna is more suited to signal problem as opposed to omnidirectional type (that you have).

I found this on eBay - any suggestions, recommendations - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-pcs-4G-LTE-LPDA-MIMO-Antennas-for-Telstra-Optus-Vodafone-Lot-1/1837041...Smiley Tongue

Thanks for your help SillyGogo.

Cheers Mike

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Re: External Antenna for AC800S

SillyGogo

@emmsee thank you for the update. 

 

I think a 6Meters runs would be okay without a booster. Always, can try it first and see how stable your connection is. For your situation, I agree with your pick of outdoor antenna as the one on my first post is design for indoor and high density area. For an outdoor antenna I would suggest you have some sort of lightning protection, depending on the high. I am no experience in this area and would strongly recommend you research up or contact the antenna seller for more advice. The last thing you want is to create a lightning rod into your livingroom. 

 

My set up was at a high density urban area the signal were between 2-3 bars, with the little indoor antenna booster, I managed to get 3-4 bars, mostly 4 bars with it facing the window. I have tried the 810s with the dock and tplink mr400. The 810s gave me better indoor wifi signal and more stable. However, I wasn't keen with a battery constantly charging. So ended up with the tplink Mr400 setup. 

 

Another thing to consider is that the 800S wifi coverage would be average. I found it without the dock will give me about 5M range. With the dock able to cover 70% of a 2 storey home. Anything beyond that would degrade the speed. Depending on your usage area you might want to consider the dock, a wifi router that supports 4G mobile dongle like the asus RTAC66UB1 or RT-AC86U etc to give you better wifi coverage or even go with the TP-Link MR400. The TPlink uses the SMA connector and the wifi is better but not amazing. 

 

Getting a good signal in is step 1, step 2 would be getting that signal via the wifi then to your devices. 


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Re: External Antenna for AC800S

Lem

You do realize tha. antenna is only 3dBi dont you?  They just shifted the decimal point from an already overstated 3.5dBi!

Take a look at the size of a REAL 15dBi antenna and youll get the picture

eg https://onwireless.com.au/.......-modem-netgear800s.html

Re: External Antenna for AC800S

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Lem

Boosters from mobilerepeateraustralia.com are NOT LEGAL for use in AU. Currently the only legal repeaters for Optus are the Cel-fi Nextivity: Eg

https://onwireless.com.au/smart-antenna-cel-fi-repeater/optus-smart-repeater.html

Keep in mind that these are not MiMo so if possible use a high quality MiMo antenna directly connected to your modem.

Re: External Antenna for AC800S

emmsee

G'day Lem,

Following a discussion with Optus Technical Support I purchased this antenna - https://onwireless.com.au/dual-11dbi-all-band-3g-dc-4g-lte-mimo-antenna.html

My reception went from 2 bars to 5 bars and DL speed from average of 21.46 to 39.61 Mbps (using 4G) - no 4GX here in Gloucester.

cheers

emmsee

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